We just received our water committee progress report and there still are questions at least in my mind.
I will be attending presenting them to the water committee at the next meeting.
If any of you have any questions I will be glad to preset them on your behalf to the water committee if you cannot attend. I will present them anonymously if you prefer. I realize this is an effort of the committee in transparency and I applaud this, but needs further discussion in my opinion.
They might tell you to attend the meeting but most residents do not want to go and I understand this.
But even if you do not want to attend the meeting you are still entitled to answers should you have questions.
Post then here or on face book and comments always welcome
This is an editorial of the 2016 Town Meeting.. Please feel free to comment. There is a comment area below the Video. Thank you for visiting TownNewport.com.
A discussion on the articles on the town meeting, lets share thoughts on this. Perhaps some would make better choices if a little information was revealed.
A Public Utility tool for Transparent Government. Use it!
What is the Public Records Act? Why is it so important? So you ask yourself when you get a increase on water bill. Your property taxes go up. What is our town paying the employees. Why and what did they pay contractors for that useless community solar garden that does nothing for the community? That’s a cute little word. Obviously this cute little word worked because the town voted this $250.000 project in despite being in debt and overlooking other essential projects like the failing public water supply. https://townnewport.com/2016/02/19/open-meeting-law. Who benefited from this contract? Certainly the contractor!
Would you like to take a closer look at the contracts possibly? The disbursements related to this contract? Most items like this go on in the background in a town in violation of the open meeting laws then to ad insult to injury amounts spent on contractors and financial details of the towns business is locked away in secret file cases locked and guarded by the administrators of the town…
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The section of our website to explore the “Open Meeting Laws or commonly referred to as the OML.
Please be our guest and check out the videos and references included in this section of the website.
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All People Welcome to this blog from anywhere at anytime Let’s Talk
We know that our small town or city government is organized of course. They have meetings and discussions regularly. We know that our democracy is “for the people, by the people”. The “by the people” part of this equation has become challenged. It appears that this has been changing to “by the Selectmen, for the Selectmen”. They are ruling the towns across the nation. Ruling, not serving. The people in my little town have a blend of unconditional trust and fear of the town officials and don’t the selectmen know this. They vote on increases in utilities and taxes and contract projects that seem to just pop up out of nowhere. They have meetings to vote these items in that no one knows or is informed about. If you do happen to find about one and attend, you are likely to not get heard or should you ask questions, they will either avoid them altogether or answer in a vague and deceptive way. In our little town the Selectboard and the town clerk have been in office for 20 years and are very skilled in keeping the public out of the picture while they do exactly as they want.
One of my first experiences in a select board meeting, I was speaking out which turned out to a heated debate over an issue with a selectman. In general this is pretty normal in government we see our legislators at it all the time on video. When the meeting ended while I was heading home, a resident stopped me and remarked on the debate I had at the meeting. He said “You better watch what you are doing you will get arrested” Incredible! Incredible! My towns people fear the selectmen to the point of being in fear of speaking out in an opening meeting!!! Like North Korea, Cuba, Syria, Libya. The selectmen are not serving the public, they are ruling with an iron hand. It is commonly discussed in my town of the intimidation that the selectboard use at meetings. The attendance at these meetings as you might expect is minimal leaving the Selectboard to do as they please.
In 2014 our Federal and State government has amended two laws The “Open Meeting Law” and “The “Public Records Act”. These amendments put in place to help balance the peoples rights in our democracy of which has been attacked by local governments Select Boards in particular who have chosen to rule instead of serve the people.
This blog a place for the People to meet and discuss, ask questions about and how to use these laws to better their local governments. Laws in themselves do not make change, there has to be an awareness of these laws, compliance and action taken for non compliance.
Although this website originally created for the tiny town of Newport Center VT I invite anyone from anywhere to participate. Although the laws vary slightly from state to state they are basically the same created for the same reason.. to have a more transparent government to give back to the the people … for the people, by the people.
Let the people meet and talk. Lets look at these new laws there will be plenty of resources right here and hopefully a lot of discussion of the experiences of citizens experiences, frustrations, advice, opinion
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At this meeting we were going over some of the Open Meeting laws and Public Records Act. So in the course of our discussion while I had the floor, I mentioned my first experience on a Public Records request with the Town Clerk, Denise Daigle.
She was new to this as well. I asked for bank statements and she said the Selectboard wanted to remove the account numbers from the statements and it would take a day. So anyway I went in the next day to pick them up. I assumed the account numbers had been removed.
I mentioned this experience during the meeting not to criticize. I was pointing out how we were all adjusting to the new laws. She was getting a bit excited and said she never gave me bank statements with account number removed. Steve Barrup took it a little further out and said I was accusing him of falsifying documents. Denise demanded that I produce the Bank statements.. I agreed .. So I went back to my files and I see that she did not give me bank statements. She gave me the check warrants report which looks like a bank statement. When I got them from her, since I did ask for bank statements and told me the select board wanted the account number removed, I assumed that is what she gave me….So I apologize for the confusion on this issue. It all boils down to my original thought on the discussion. We were just getting used to the new laws.
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In one section of this Video, There was issue taken by Albert on the fact that I considered actions taken by Select Chair Steven Barrup as gross non compliance of Open Meeting Law and Public records Act at the Nov 7th, 2015 Selectboard Meeting.
The discussion grew heated and Albert argued that my opinion “gross non compliance” was severe. He demanded that I make a statement on this. Steven Barrup also agreed that I should publish my opinion on this.
So on Nov 7th, 2015 I attended my very first Selectboard meeting in Newport Center VT. There was a civil engineer on the agenda to speak at the meeting. Ernest Choquette, myself, my wife Jayne and two or three other residents were in attendance.
We were clearly not included in participation of this meeting. The Selectboard and Denise Daigle were discussing water solutions quietly among themselves. We could not hear what was going on. We were most interested because of the recent increase of the water bill. I interjected and asked who the speaker was, he was not introduced to the residents. We were excluded from executive session (first violation; Article 1 313 1(a).
The mans name was Wayne Eliot and stopped immediately somewhat embarrassed and introduced himself. I then asked questions about some of what I saw drawn on the blackboard. Wayne began to explain and Steve interrupted him and told me. He can not talk to you now because it is costing you (the people taxpayers, 250 an hour to pay the engineer) 2nd violation, 1 312 (h) and 1 314 (a)
Later I asked Denise about the 250 an hour. Denise told me that Steve was only joking with the 250 per hour quote. I confronted Steve in a heated debate at the next Select board with 30 residents present. I asked over and over “why did you lie to me” He finally responded by saying “I know now that I should not have said that. I only said that because it makes engineers and lawyers feel good when you tell them they charge a lot of money”. I thought this odd but was satisfied with his response and respect him for being honest on this. However we were denied to be included in an important issue I attended the meeting specifically for. Previous to this meeting when I received a notice for a water increase, it stated you could get more information by contacting the town clerk Denise Daigle. This I did and she told me if I wanted more information I would have to attend the Nov 7, 2015. To the date of this letter I have still not gotten a clear explanation for details for the increase. In particular the numbers that caused this. The expenses that Steve Barrup referenced to at the Select Board meeting Dec 3, 2015. This is on record video taped at that meeting.
Shortly after Wayne Elliot finished speaking to the select board. He left the meeting. At this time supposedly we (residents) were permitted to speak. Ernest raised his hand to be heard. Steve Barrup in a loud, very loud voice yelled “ERNEST SHUT UP” Steve went on spewing out more angry words something about revisiting previous disagreement they have had in past. He was not allowed to speak.
In my opinion, this was no less that bullying.
(violation 3 – 1 VSA 314 (a)
I felt for Ernest who I barely knew previous to this meeting. I leaned over and whispered to Ernest ” I can fix this” I thought after “did I really say that?” How the hell am I going to fix this? Thus the inspiration to become active in the towns business. Keep in mind all I have stated was witnessed by other residents.
Recap…Since I have started to video tape the select board meetings for the record, Steve Barrup has not acted like that since. So I guess that got fixed . Steve Barrup now treats now treats Ernest with respect. That has been fixed.
Steve did publicly admit he should not have responded to me the way I explained above when I asked to question Wayne Elliot for details. This has been partially fixed.
Ok, for this item there remains a need for a cure to make it whole. That would be that the residents did not get a chance to be heard and to hear Wayne Elliot speak of the details of our water system. At the Feb 4th, 2016 meeting, I took a minute and explained how we have heard a lot from the selectboard and Fred Barrow about the water system details and that they are well informed of course. I really wanted to hear from the experts on this. The select board paid thousands for the Assessment report the Eliot Aldridge prepared for the town on the water system. I suggested to the select board to have Wayne Elliot back so we could get some expert opinion on the matter that Steve Barrup denied us on the Nov 7th meeting..After I asked Steve ignored me and went on to another issue.
This would be the 4th Violation “RIGHT TO KNOW” So Albert, this is what I consider gross non Compliance of Open Meeting law and Freedom of Information Act. You can verify these details from the many residents who witnessed the events.
I hope this helps explain my reason for me considering this a GROSS non compliance. This is only my opinion and the term Gross is a vague term mostly define by opinion.
Barry Sahagian
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This is no joke. I have been collecting information on the details of our water crisis. Three months now and we are still in the dark. I will be releasing documents and videos and other evidence. The first set of clues and evidence will be published on Wed Eve Jan 20th.
Do you have what it takes to solve this mystery?
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On Jan 7th, 2016 there was a Select Board Meeting discussion on a water crisis of Newport Town, VT. A Statement of Facts was presented at the meeting video below.. Below the video is an introduction and notes on the meeeting. Further down the page is the actual Statement of facts document. On the very Bottom you will find a comment section. We encourage you to add a comment…
Introduction
So, one more Select Board meeting on January 7, 2016 and again well attended.
So ,at least two or three more enemies made by me and my husband. Unfortunately, this is what happens when you attempt to effect change. A couple of people made inflammatory comments to me and I reacted.
The meeting’s highlights were as follows:
`Vote and Rejection of Barry’s written proposal to Select Board members to reduce the water bill to $200.00
I exposed Steve Barrup’ skilled bag of tricks. Steve Barrup is known for his bag of tricks, avoidance, bad decisions, wrong decisions, and lack of decisions.
The Water Committee was FINALLY approved initiated by Gerry Waterman at Steve Barrup’s reluctance. The capable members (Ernest Choquette, Dennis Delabruere, Chris Donovan, etc. will make strides and hopefully initiate a solution(s) As well, maybe they will uncover some of the financial discrepancies in connection to these water issues that my husband has already seen and brought to the attention of residents.
Barry Sahagian has put in countless hours of work in video, editing, procuring supporting documents, research, Facebook and Website all on a voluntary basis.
Like the rest of you, he must work for our living expenses including our excessive water bill. So, although there will be a few more videos forthcoming, the work will now be reduced to a minimum for time constraints.
The Townnewport.com t has now moved to another phase with the Water Committee and we all support their efforts.
Now, what can the residents do? Besides hidden Facebook comments allowing you to vent, Add comments below and let us know how you feel, you can vote out these Select Board members if you don’t want them in at the next Town Meeting in March 2016. You can vote out excessive donations and any expenditures you feel may be causing our taxes and water bills to continue to rise.
For those of you who support Barry’s efforts, we thank you. For those who do not, you are entitled to your opinion.
All best,
Jayne Sahagian
Statement of Facts Newport Center Water Crises 2016
1.) Eighteen years no results. no solutions in sight, massive debt and huge increases to residents
Conclusion: So far the explanations of the water problem have been riddled with contradictions and confusing statements which makes me believe there is a level of incompetency of the Select board to deal with this problem.
2.) According to General Ledger Water Expenses for 2015 Totaled 94,486.36 of which 58,000 was paid to Cote trucking to haul water 22,000 was paid to North Troy and Newport City for water Purchase. See Water Expense Details
Conclusion: Was this necessary to buy this amount of water? According to documents from the Civil water engineers and state planning the existing wells have the capacity to supply the 322 users of water in this town. See Videos #3/ (Video Three)
3.) One of the General Ledger Water Expenses 2015 a 100.00 disbursement was paid to Masse Poultry in November. water-expense-details/
Conclusion: What does a purchase of Poultry have to do with water expense?
4.) During the Select Board meeting of Dec 3rd, a resident spoke out at discussion of what the wells produce “Maybe you should tell them what they are producing now” Steve Barrup at first responded by saying “Don’t have that data, but”. He then made a second response of 19,000 gal at the same time Fred also responded with 23 or 24,000 gal. See Video 2 Video (2)
Conclusion: Who do you believe? I have learned to Expect contradictions from Steve Barrup most exclusively.
5.) In the 2011 “Water Source Preliminary Assesment Report” done by Elliot Aldridge (civil Engineers) contracted by the town. On Sec 4.1.1 “The current system does not have a reliable or up to date data on any of the existing wells” The report continues to state… Sec 1.2 “The town should purchase a Portable Waterwell Monitoring Device Approximately 1,000. ” This would accurately record this information. The Town did not purchase this equipment.
Conclusion: we must ask, how does the town determine there is a shortage of water to justify the purchase of nearly 500,000 in the past few years. Do they use a dowser, perhaps or are they guessing?
6.) The 2011 Aldridge Elliot Report is a very detailed plan of 30 pages offering dozens of solutions and alternatives to fix our water problem at a fraction of the cost spent on purchasing/ trucking water.
Conclusion: It appears the that select board after paying thousands to Aldridge Elliot to prepare the plan/report did not use this valuable advice and plans for 4 years.
7.) In Nov 2015 under the direction of Aldridge/Elliot and Construction by Manosh, a new well was constructed. The cost was 25,000. After the well was completed, the Select Board voted to use the new well only in case of emergency.
Conclusion: Do we not have an emergency now? We are spending close to 100,000 per year on hauling and purchasing water driving the town further in debt currently at -350,000. Quoting Steve Barrup on Dec 3rd on this issue ” If the town goes Bankrupt, the residents will be responsible to pay the debt”. The Select Board takes no responsibility in creating the debt by the actions of voting in and signing checks to nonessential water system purchases such as water hauling and purchase. Donations to Goodrich Library, Solar Farm, and many more
8). There are 4 wells capable of producing water “marginally enough to supply the town” (according to Elliot Eldridge Water Engineers) The well 1993 and the two lower wells on Vance hill. They need bits of maintenance/upgrades like water boiling Quoted at 47,000. This relatively small amount to initiate a permanent fix was discouraged at the Dec 3rd Select Board Meeting by Steve Barrup when the residents suggested the Select board should take this step. Steve Barrup Responded, ” I could do this but it will cost you 47,000″. A resident yelled out “DO IT” which was ignored by the Select Board SEE https://townnewport.com/videos/
9). On Dec 3rd Select Board meeting, while a very serious Ernest Choquette was proposing solutions to the water problem,
Steve Barrup stated “I would love to take this whole thing and just give it to somebody else”
Conclusion: Step Down.
10. The Select board at this time is predicting it will take 3 more years in which time they will borrow more money and drill more wells in spite of the fact the engineering firm Elliot/Aldridge who they are paying to work on the system say ” the 4 existing wells can marginally meet the demands of the town ” They have also outlined numerous well conceived plans at a reasonable cost. The select board has not taken any of the suggested steps Until Nov 2015.
Conclusion: Confusion, contradictions and lack of progress
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